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about pci wireless adapter
01-19-2012, 07:55 PM (This post was last modified: 01-19-2012 08:16 PM by gregoriosamsa.)
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about pci wireless adapter
hello.. i have to buy a wireless adapter today.. a pci wireless card ... deli(cate) support some especific card? can be a problem? some tip? what about usb wireless adapter?

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01-19-2012, 10:32 PM (This post was last modified: 01-19-2012 10:50 PM by tavvva.)
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RE: about pci wireless adapter
(01-19-2012 07:55 PM)gregoriosamsa Wrote:  hello.. i have to buy a wireless adapter today.. a pci wireless card ... deli(cate) support some especific card? can be a problem? some tip? what about usb wireless adapter?

Hello.

Please, be careful. Kernel 2.4 has a very limited set of internal wireless modules.
I've built drivers for the most used PCMCIA wireless cards from Realtek.

http://delicate.tavvva.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=36
http://delicate.tavvva.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=62

So .... the following chipsets should work well (with WPA2 support)
RT2860PCI/mPCI/CB/PCIe(RT2760/RT2790/RT2860/RT2890)
RT2501PCI/mPCI/CB(RT61:RT2561/RT2561S RT2661)

But others are very probably unsupported. You could eventually list some cards here and I could check if it is possible to build drivers for them ....

You could also check the following list of cards supported by the DSL and AFAIK DSL doesn't seem to use any wireless patches for kernel ...
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index...ome_Effort

I hope they could still work with the latest 2.4 kernel ... DeLi(cate) has the ndiswrapper package (needed for windows drivers usage) in the repository, but I'm unsure if it works correctly.

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01-19-2012, 11:02 PM
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RE: about pci wireless adapter
Just a small comment too.
I read that you're using a P1 166Mhz, so it's most likely that it has USB 1.0 or USB 1.1 ports. I guess that most wireless USB network adapters requires USB 2.0. Another thing is (my experience) that USB isn't that fast, so it wouldn't recommend it.

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01-19-2012, 11:19 PM (This post was last modified: 01-19-2012 11:28 PM by tavvva.)
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(01-19-2012 11:02 PM)nl2stk Wrote:  Just a small comment too.
I read that you're using a P1 166Mhz, so it's most likely that it has USB 1.0 or USB 1.1 ports. I guess that most wireless USB network adapters requires USB 2.0. Another thing is (my experience) that USB isn't that fast, so it wouldn't recommend it.

Almost all USB2.0 adapters should be backward compatible with USB1.0/1.1 ... only a very limited bunch of cards doesn't work because of bugs in the electrical or firmware design.
USB1.1 speed (12 Mbit/s = 1.5MB/s) is more than sufficient for browsing .... even with Low Speed (1.5Mbit/s = 187kB/s) is the browsing still acceptable (30x faster than analog modems).
But USB devices would be probably unsupported and without drivers for the 2.4 series kernel. But You can try to search a bit and let me know if You find drivers.
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01-20-2012, 12:22 AM
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(01-19-2012 11:19 PM)tavvva Wrote:  Almost all USB2.0 adapters should be backward compatible with USB1.0/1.1 ... only a very limited bunch of cards doesn't work because of bugs in the electrical or firmware design.

Okay, I only see 'req. USB 2.0 or 3' on boxes :]
It was a bit of a warning, it would be a pity to spend money on something that (maybe) doesn't work.

tavvva Wrote:USB1.1 speed (12 Mbit/s = 1.5MB/s) is more than sufficient for browsing .... even with Low Speed (1.5Mbit/s = 187kB/s) is the browsing still acceptable (30x faster than analog modems).

It still is fast enough, but it's slower than a pcicard (which costs almost the same)
But maybe it doesn't matter, after all it depends on the user.

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01-20-2012, 12:43 AM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2012 07:12 AM by gregoriosamsa.)
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RE: about pci wireless adapter
i again.. thank for the answers... i not have found a lot of models of chipset ...i found a adapter with a chipset Atheros AR2417 ... (adapter wireless TL-WN350GD)
reed some forums and presumably run with:
1. "madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3998-20090413" driver.. in there install.txt say that run in 2.4.x kernels...
help ...Sad could be work?
http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/mad...324.tar.gz

2. ath5k/ath9k driver

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01-20-2012, 09:54 AM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2012 10:03 AM by tavvva.)
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RE: about pci wireless adapter
(01-20-2012 12:43 AM)gregoriosamsa Wrote:  i again.. thank for the answers... i not have found a lot of models of chipset ...i found a adapter with a chipset Atheros AR2417 ... (adapter wireless TL-WN350GD)
reed some forums and presumably run with:
1. "madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3998-20090413" driver.. in there install.txt say that run in 2.4.x kernels...
help ...Sad could be work?
http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/mad...324.tar.gz

2. ath5k/ath9k driver

ath5k/ath9k driver is in the 2.6 series kernel ....
I've build the madwifi-hal package for You, but without any testing ....

http://delicate.tavvva.net/0.1/pkg/noupd...pkg.tar.gz

The module should be loaded with
/sbin/modprobe ath_pci

and then check the dmesg output and the ifconfig -a output for the device presence.

Even if the driver works for You, there might be issues with the WPA support ...

You could eventually try to make it working with the following WPA supplicant package ... But I couldn't test that ...
http://delicate.tavvva.net/0.1/pkg/noupd...pkg.tar.gz

Wireless support in DeLi(cate) is still experimental .... only the listed Realtek devices were successfully tested by me.
This could need a lot of fighting ... so .... good luck!
I'm interested in the results and possible troubleshooting.
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01-20-2012, 12:03 PM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2012 12:03 PM by tavvva.)
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RE: about pci wireless adapter
I just tested the madwifi driver with one of my recent atheros based cards and it got frozen .... the card is not listed as supported, but it's hard to guess what could happen with the supported one ...

If it is possible to return the card to the shop, then You could at least try if it works ...
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01-20-2012, 12:26 PM
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RE: about pci wireless adapter
(01-19-2012 10:32 PM)tavvva Wrote:  I wanted to start a concurrent project called DeLi(cate)+ based on the 2.6 or 3.x series kernels. This could improve a support of newer HW. But first we need to stabilize the current one.

I still got 7 boxes left for testing Tongue

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01-20-2012, 01:14 PM (This post was last modified: 01-20-2012 01:16 PM by tavvva.)
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RE: about pci wireless adapter
Strange .... the madwifi driver didn't get frozen when the ath_pci module was loaded before the card insertion .......

I see the card as ath0 and it's possible to assign an IP address and SSID .... still haven't checked if it works (my wifi router is broken at the moment)

soooo ..... there's a small chance it could work ....
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